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		<title>By: Nigel</title>
		<link>http://blog.nigelpoulton.com/energy-matters-apparently/comment-page-1/#comment-296</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Barry,&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Thanks for clarifying Dicks position re the service engagement offering&#8230;. there was me thinking he was spreading a bit of fear, uncertainty and doubt.&#160; I shall remember to read between the lines next time.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;On this point - I&#8217;ve seen so many places where even basic LUN allocation is done without thinking things through properly, causing all kinds of problems including performance and capacity management.&#160; Sure there are plenty of us who, if left to ourselves, could do a good job of it, but sadly this cannot be said of everyone.&#160; There are quite a few places out there where the Unix or the Windows guys run the storage and they generally need all the guidance they can get.&#160; With that in mind, and the fact that most people usually want guidance with new features, I &lt;em&gt;personally&lt;/em&gt; don&#8217;t think the service offering is overkill. &#160;I would want at least some form of workshop from HDS before implementing it.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Finally, I see your point re not offering this on the USP yet where more benefits &lt;em&gt;could possibly&lt;/em&gt; be reaped.&#160; However, Im personally a fan of testing new technologies and gadgets out in your lower end kit before throwing it in to the real stuff (I was a little surprised to see thin provisioning on the USP-V and not the AMS).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry,</p>
<p>Thanks for clarifying Dicks position re the service engagement offering&hellip;. there was me thinking he was spreading a bit of fear, uncertainty and doubt.&nbsp; I shall remember to read between the lines next time.</p>
<p>On this point &#8211; I&rsquo;ve seen so many places where even basic LUN allocation is done without thinking things through properly, causing all kinds of problems including performance and capacity management.&nbsp; Sure there are plenty of us who, if left to ourselves, could do a good job of it, but sadly this cannot be said of everyone.&nbsp; There are quite a few places out there where the Unix or the Windows guys run the storage and they generally need all the guidance they can get.&nbsp; With that in mind, and the fact that most people usually want guidance with new features, I <em>personally</em> don&rsquo;t think the service offering is overkill. &nbsp;I would want at least some form of workshop from HDS before implementing it.</p>
<p>Finally, I see your point re not offering this on the USP yet where more benefits <em>could possibly</em> be reaped.&nbsp; However, Im personally a fan of testing new technologies and gadgets out in your lower end kit before throwing it in to the real stuff (I was a little surprised to see thin provisioning on the USP-V and not the AMS).</p>
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		<title>By: the storage anarchist</title>
		<link>http://blog.nigelpoulton.com/energy-matters-apparently/comment-page-1/#comment-295</link>
		<dc:creator>the storage anarchist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A gentle nudge back towards a factual representation of Dick&#039;s position - his point was to ask why a service engagement was required to utilize a simple, fundamental&#160;feature such as MAID. You guys are undoubtedly smart enough to&#160; figure out how you&#039;re going to have to lay your volumes out across the RAID groups in order to have any chance of ever powering off a group, so bundling with a services offering seems overkill.
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Curiously, this service offering apparently&#160;wasn&#039;t announced as available for the big-boy toys from Hitachi. As you note, good storage management is the pre-requisite to optimizing energy efficiency. A service offering would seem more important on a platform that supports so much more&#160;storage (internal and external) and that&#160;has few (if any) features designed to save/reduce power utilization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A gentle nudge back towards a factual representation of Dick&#8217;s position &#8211; his point was to ask why a service engagement was required to utilize a simple, fundamental&nbsp;feature such as MAID. You guys are undoubtedly smart enough to&nbsp; figure out how you&#8217;re going to have to lay your volumes out across the RAID groups in order to have any chance of ever powering off a group, so bundling with a services offering seems overkill.<br />
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Curiously, this service offering apparently&nbsp;wasn&#8217;t announced as available for the big-boy toys from Hitachi. As you note, good storage management is the pre-requisite to optimizing energy efficiency. A service offering would seem more important on a platform that supports so much more&nbsp;storage (internal and external) and that&nbsp;has few (if any) features designed to save/reduce power utilization.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Poulton</title>
		<link>http://blog.nigelpoulton.com/energy-matters-apparently/comment-page-1/#comment-294</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Poulton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-GB&quot;&gt;You see, thats my main gripe with Dicks post over at Energy Matters ---&gt;&#160; iheartstorage makes a good point when he says &#8220;....I also believe that &lt;strong style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;em style=&quot;&quot;&gt;service engagements&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; are the &lt;strong style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;em style=&quot;&quot;&gt;ideal&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; platform for &lt;strong style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;em style=&quot;&quot;&gt;helping customers&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;em style=&quot;&quot;&gt;maximize&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; the &lt;strong style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;em style=&quot;&quot;&gt;value&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; of the investments that they&#8217;ve *already* made in storage infrastructure&#8230;.&#8221; (emphasis added).&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&#160; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-GB&quot;&gt;Dick on the other hand felt the need to spread &lt;strong style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;pure unadulterated FUD&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; by spouting off his opinion that because this is being offered as a service &#8220;&#8230;.it has to make you wonder about some of the gotchas that tend not to be covered in a press release&#8221;.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&#160; &lt;/span&gt;Does the same apply to all service offerings including those offered by EMC?????&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&#160; &lt;/span&gt;One has to wonder!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-GB&quot;&gt;I think Dicks blog could be of value in keeping up with the green push.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&#160; &lt;/span&gt;But lets not be Mr E.M.C Predictable and use it to try and shout down the competition and make dubious statements about your won employers wares.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-GB&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;I see there is still a deathly silence over some of the technologies Dick claimed as being unique and differentiating.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&#160; &lt;/span&gt;May I suggest that Dick follows what BarryB and MarkT have been doing and strike through the inaccurate statements in his post.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">You see, thats my main gripe with Dicks post over at Energy Matters &#8212;&gt;&nbsp; iheartstorage makes a good point when he says &ldquo;&#8230;.I also believe that <strong style=""><em style="">service engagements</em></strong> are the <strong style=""><em style="">ideal</em></strong> platform for <strong style=""><em style="">helping customers</em></strong> <strong style=""><em style="">maximize</em></strong> the <strong style=""><em style="">value</em></strong> of the investments that they&rsquo;ve *already* made in storage infrastructure&hellip;.&rdquo; (emphasis added).<span style="">&nbsp; </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Dick on the other hand felt the need to spread <strong style=""><u>pure unadulterated FUD</u></strong> by spouting off his opinion that because this is being offered as a service &ldquo;&hellip;.it has to make you wonder about some of the gotchas that tend not to be covered in a press release&rdquo;.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Does the same apply to all service offerings including those offered by EMC?????<span style="">&nbsp; </span>One has to wonder!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I think Dicks blog could be of value in keeping up with the green push.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>But lets not be Mr E.M.C Predictable and use it to try and shout down the competition and make dubious statements about your won employers wares.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o :p></o>I see there is still a deathly silence over some of the technologies Dick claimed as being unique and differentiating.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>May I suggest that Dick follows what BarryB and MarkT have been doing and strike through the inaccurate statements in his post.</span></p>
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		<title>By: stephen2615</title>
		<link>http://blog.nigelpoulton.com/energy-matters-apparently/comment-page-1/#comment-293</link>
		<dc:creator>stephen2615</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 00:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a jack o latern with the EMC logo instead of the face?&#160; Thats enough to frighten me and we don&#039;t take any note of Halloween here in Aus...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a jack o latern with the EMC logo instead of the face?&nbsp; Thats enough to frighten me and we don&#8217;t take any note of Halloween here in Aus&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: snig</title>
		<link>http://blog.nigelpoulton.com/energy-matters-apparently/comment-page-1/#comment-292</link>
		<dc:creator>snig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 22:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I decided it was time for a change.&#160; We did it initially to be sarcastic as all the companies around were &quot;going green&quot;.&#160; My belief is that if you manage your data correctly you can be much &quot;greener&quot; than just by throwing a bunch of storage at the problem.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We need a Halloween theme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I decided it was time for a change.&nbsp; We did it initially to be sarcastic as all the companies around were &quot;going green&quot;.&nbsp; My belief is that if you manage your data correctly you can be much &quot;greener&quot; than just by throwing a bunch of storage at the problem.</p>
<p>We need a Halloween theme.</p>
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		<title>By: stephen2615</title>
		<link>http://blog.nigelpoulton.com/energy-matters-apparently/comment-page-1/#comment-291</link>
		<dc:creator>stephen2615</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 22:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of going green, what happened to the green image at the top of the blog page that said RM was going green?&#160; Perhaps RM is not carbon neutral but working towards it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of going green, what happened to the green image at the top of the blog page that said RM was going green?&nbsp; Perhaps RM is not carbon neutral but working towards it?</p>
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		<title>By: stephen2615</title>
		<link>http://blog.nigelpoulton.com/energy-matters-apparently/comment-page-1/#comment-290</link>
		<dc:creator>stephen2615</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn...
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Do EMC staffers get a bonus if they have a blog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn&#8230;<br />
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Do EMC staffers get a bonus if they have a blog?</p>
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		<title>By: iheartstorage</title>
		<link>http://blog.nigelpoulton.com/energy-matters-apparently/comment-page-1/#comment-289</link>
		<dc:creator>iheartstorage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding EMC&#039;s &#039;green&#039; efforts, EMC moved to address this issue relatively early on, and via sensible avenues. Namely services (EMC Energy Efficiency Services launched in late 2006, before vendor &#039;greenwashing&#039; hit fever pitch) and industry collaboration (Green Grid consortium). Yes, EMC Global Services is a for-profit enterprise, but I also believe that service engagements are the ideal platform for helping customers maximize the value of the investments that they&#039;ve *already* made in storage infrastructure, *before* they buy their next truckload of new equipment. Re: The Green Grid, the cynics among us might look upon such consortiums with suspicion, but big picture, the green issue demands collaboration/cooperation. For all the talking we&#039;ve been doing at boards like this about power consumption, wouldn&#039;t it be nice if we had industry-agreed-upon metrics and methodologies to ground our discussion? The Green Grid is getting it done, and EMC is helping. All of the major vendors are represented. Except Hitachi.
&#160;
And yes, many of the green benefits delivered via EMC storage products (and other vendor products) are merely side effects of long established development roadmaps. But as &#039;Zilla noted, the senior execs at EMC have lit the fire under the engineering teams to address this issue as a core area of focus (Centera LP node is early fruit of this labor). EMC will make big strides in the months/years ahead in this regard, as will other vendors, I&#039;m sure.
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In the interim, try not to get sprayed with green paint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding EMC&#8217;s &#8216;green&#8217; efforts, EMC moved to address this issue relatively early on, and via sensible avenues. Namely services (EMC Energy Efficiency Services launched in late 2006, before vendor &#8216;greenwashing&#8217; hit fever pitch) and industry collaboration (Green Grid consortium). Yes, EMC Global Services is a for-profit enterprise, but I also believe that service engagements are the ideal platform for helping customers maximize the value of the investments that they&#8217;ve *already* made in storage infrastructure, *before* they buy their next truckload of new equipment. Re: The Green Grid, the cynics among us might look upon such consortiums with suspicion, but big picture, the green issue demands collaboration/cooperation. For all the talking we&#8217;ve been doing at boards like this about power consumption, wouldn&#8217;t it be nice if we had industry-agreed-upon metrics and methodologies to ground our discussion? The Green Grid is getting it done, and EMC is helping. All of the major vendors are represented. Except Hitachi.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
And yes, many of the green benefits delivered via EMC storage products (and other vendor products) are merely side effects of long established development roadmaps. But as &#8216;Zilla noted, the senior execs at EMC have lit the fire under the engineering teams to address this issue as a core area of focus (Centera LP node is early fruit of this labor). EMC will make big strides in the months/years ahead in this regard, as will other vendors, I&#8217;m sure.<br />
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In the interim, try not to get sprayed with green paint.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Poulton</title>
		<link>http://blog.nigelpoulton.com/energy-matters-apparently/comment-page-1/#comment-288</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Poulton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-GB&quot; style=&quot;FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial&quot;&gt;Zilla-man, if that&#8217;s true what you say about all the effort EMC puts into getting greener, then I genuinely mean it when I say &#8220;hats off to you guys&#8221;.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes&quot;&gt;&#160; &lt;/span&gt;However, since you&#8217;ve worked for EMC since leaving college Im not so sure you can say &#8220;Whats different about EMC is that &#8230;..&#8221;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-GB&quot; style=&quot;FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&#160;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-GB&quot; style=&quot;FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial&quot;&gt;Dick/BarryB, It would be interesting to see some of the numbers that Dick currently shares with customers and prospects.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes&quot;&gt;&#160; &lt;/span&gt;But I wouldn&#8217;t hold your breath waiting for an apology from me &#8211; you might find that you die waiting.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes&quot;&gt;&#160; &lt;/span&gt;I think you know Im not anti-EMC or anti-anybody, I just love storage and like you don&#8217;t like to see misleading statements in blogs&#8230;.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-GB&quot; style=&quot;FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&#160;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-GB&quot; style=&quot;FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial&quot;&gt;I assume from the lack of defence over comments such as &#8220;EMC&#8217;s unique Virtual LUN technology&#8221; and &#8220;So you don&#8217;t need to have any unused capacity spinning when you place the system on the floor&#8230;&#8230;.&#8221;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes&quot;&gt;&#160; &lt;/span&gt;As well as the fact that the technologies Dick refers to as being differentiators between EMC and the rest are actually not differentiators.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes&quot;&gt;&#160; &lt;/span&gt;Oh and being green was almost certainly not a &#8220;design point&#8221; of any of them.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Zilla-man, if that&rsquo;s true what you say about all the effort EMC puts into getting greener, then I genuinely mean it when I say &ldquo;hats off to you guys&rdquo;.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>However, since you&rsquo;ve worked for EMC since leaving college Im not so sure you can say &ldquo;Whats different about EMC is that &hellip;..&rdquo;<o :p></o></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o :p>&nbsp;</o></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dick/BarryB, It would be interesting to see some of the numbers that Dick currently shares with customers and prospects.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>But I wouldn&rsquo;t hold your breath waiting for an apology from me &ndash; you might find that you die waiting.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>I think you know Im not anti-EMC or anti-anybody, I just love storage and like you don&rsquo;t like to see misleading statements in blogs&hellip;.<o :p></o></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o :p>&nbsp;</o></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I assume from the lack of defence over comments such as &ldquo;EMC&rsquo;s unique Virtual LUN technology&rdquo; and &ldquo;So you don&rsquo;t need to have any unused capacity spinning when you place the system on the floor&hellip;&hellip;.&rdquo;<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>As well as the fact that the technologies Dick refers to as being differentiators between EMC and the rest are actually not differentiators.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>Oh and being green was almost certainly not a &ldquo;design point&rdquo; of any of them.<o :p></o></span></p>
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		<title>By: the storage anarchist</title>
		<link>http://blog.nigelpoulton.com/energy-matters-apparently/comment-page-1/#comment-287</link>
		<dc:creator>the storage anarchist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 00:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK - rough numbers only - I&#039;m not the expert on this (but I do play one at work).
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A typical drive draws &quot;around&quot; 20 watts - slightly more under load, slightly less when idle. Pretty&#160;much the same regardless of capacity or interface, although spindle speed does play a factor.&#160;Slowing a 10K rpm drive down to 5200 rpm drops the power down to maybe 15 watts. Stopping it from spinning altogether&#160;drops the power to maybe 3-5 watts (&quot;sleep&quot; mode). Powering it off drops the power to &quot;almost&quot; zero, but you then have to consider the surge required to spin it back up.
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The typical desktop PC, on the other hand, draws about 180-watts (more for the AlienWare gaming machines, to be sure) - plus the power for the monitor.&#160;Laptops are usually 60/90/120 watts when charging - less when the battery is full.
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Storage arrays and blade server racks&#160;are more typically measured in kilowatts.
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Maybe if Nigel apologizes to Energy Matters for the nice Welcome To Blogland, he&#039;ll document some of the more specific numbers that he shares with customers and prospects. Mr. Sullivan really should be a welcome addition to our blogging community (although he&#039;ll probably tread a little softer after today&#039;s lessons :*).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK &#8211; rough numbers only &#8211; I&#8217;m not the expert on this (but I do play one at work).<br />
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A typical drive draws &quot;around&quot; 20 watts &#8211; slightly more under load, slightly less when idle. Pretty&nbsp;much the same regardless of capacity or interface, although spindle speed does play a factor.&nbsp;Slowing a 10K rpm drive down to 5200 rpm drops the power down to maybe 15 watts. Stopping it from spinning altogether&nbsp;drops the power to maybe 3-5 watts (&quot;sleep&quot; mode). Powering it off drops the power to &quot;almost&quot; zero, but you then have to consider the surge required to spin it back up.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
The typical desktop PC, on the other hand, draws about 180-watts (more for the AlienWare gaming machines, to be sure) &#8211; plus the power for the monitor.&nbsp;Laptops are usually 60/90/120 watts when charging &#8211; less when the battery is full.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
Storage arrays and blade server racks&nbsp;are more typically measured in kilowatts.<br />
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Maybe if Nigel apologizes to Energy Matters for the nice Welcome To Blogland, he&#8217;ll document some of the more specific numbers that he shares with customers and prospects. Mr. Sullivan really should be a welcome addition to our blogging community (although he&#8217;ll probably tread a little softer after today&#8217;s lessons :*).</p>
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