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		<title>By: Nigel Poulton</title>
		<link>http://blog.nigelpoulton.com/does-it-matter-if-data-center-kit-looks-sexy-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-826</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Poulton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 14:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chris,

I know where you&#039;re coming from, and I want to stress again that it is not top of the requirements list.  

I used to think the same as you (that it doesnt matter at all), and I think most techies like us think like that.  However, this is a marketing issue and good techies like yourself arent always the best at marketing.  Whereas Chuck and BarryB are both in marketing :-P

Most top vendors already spend some effort in trying making their Data Centre kit look good.  EMC we all know about.  IBM used to provide shark fins for the top of their ESS kit.  The USP V was supposed to look like the Matrix. NetApp had the toaster thing, 3PAR have the yellow thing going on.......  So most vendors already thinks it matters.  Even the Hitachi AIX box pictured in the article above has had somebody design it (albeit the wrong person).

Sadly (from a techie perspective) marketing matters.  I have to wonder.... if EMC were to release an Enginuity Rev on existing hardware the same day that Hitachi or IBM released an entirely new version of their flagship storage products (hardware and microcode), who would get the most airtime?  Probably EMC.

Also, names like &quot;VMAX&quot;, the old &quot;Tagmastore&quot;, &quot;Nexus&quot; and the likes all go to show that branding and image matters to the vendors.  It&#039;s about getting the right balance.

Heck, we&#039;re not likely to see any vendors releasing their flagship products with brown paisley doors or bright pink flowery doors are we.  And for good reason, image matters.

While its not a top priority, I maintain my stance that because its so easy to achieve, vendors have no excuses for hiding exciting products behind dull exteriors.

NOTE: I use the term &quot;exciting&quot; loosely in the sentence above ;-)

Just my penny&#039;s worth.

Nigel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris,</p>
<p>I know where you&#8217;re coming from, and I want to stress again that it is not top of the requirements list.  </p>
<p>I used to think the same as you (that it doesnt matter at all), and I think most techies like us think like that.  However, this is a marketing issue and good techies like yourself arent always the best at marketing.  Whereas Chuck and BarryB are both in marketing <img src='http://blog.nigelpoulton.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Most top vendors already spend some effort in trying making their Data Centre kit look good.  EMC we all know about.  IBM used to provide shark fins for the top of their ESS kit.  The USP V was supposed to look like the Matrix. NetApp had the toaster thing, 3PAR have the yellow thing going on&#8230;&#8230;.  So most vendors already thinks it matters.  Even the Hitachi AIX box pictured in the article above has had somebody design it (albeit the wrong person).</p>
<p>Sadly (from a techie perspective) marketing matters.  I have to wonder&#8230;. if EMC were to release an Enginuity Rev on existing hardware the same day that Hitachi or IBM released an entirely new version of their flagship storage products (hardware and microcode), who would get the most airtime?  Probably EMC.</p>
<p>Also, names like &#8220;VMAX&#8221;, the old &#8220;Tagmastore&#8221;, &#8220;Nexus&#8221; and the likes all go to show that branding and image matters to the vendors.  It&#8217;s about getting the right balance.</p>
<p>Heck, we&#8217;re not likely to see any vendors releasing their flagship products with brown paisley doors or bright pink flowery doors are we.  And for good reason, image matters.</p>
<p>While its not a top priority, I maintain my stance that because its so easy to achieve, vendors have no excuses for hiding exciting products behind dull exteriors.</p>
<p>NOTE: I use the term &#8220;exciting&#8221; loosely in the sentence above <img src='http://blog.nigelpoulton.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Just my penny&#8217;s worth.</p>
<p>Nigel</p>
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		<title>By: Chris M Evans</title>
		<link>http://blog.nigelpoulton.com/does-it-matter-if-data-center-kit-looks-sexy-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-825</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris M Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 22:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have to say that I don&#039;t understand the need to sex up a piece of hardware that 99.9999% of users will never ever see.&#160; I get the analogies with cars and buildings.&#160; They are things that are designed for their looks - if a Lada could do 0-60 in 3 seconds and 200mph would it be as cool as a corvette?&#160; Probably not.&#160; I do think however there&#039;s a need for cool design, a la Bauhaus.&#160; Cool form is good, but tarting it up for inclusion in 24 just isn&#039;t.&lt;br /&gt;
	&#160;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that I don&#39;t understand the need to sex up a piece of hardware that 99.9999% of users will never ever see.&nbsp; I get the analogies with cars and buildings.&nbsp; They are things that are designed for their looks &#8211; if a Lada could do 0-60 in 3 seconds and 200mph would it be as cool as a corvette?&nbsp; Probably not.&nbsp; I do think however there&#39;s a need for cool design, a la Bauhaus.&nbsp; Cool form is good, but tarting it up for inclusion in 24 just isn&#39;t.<br />
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		<title>By: Michael Hay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nigel, I believe your response to Carli is spot on in that form and function are not mutually exclusive. &#160;However with all of the discourse associated to fancy bezels and designs I do want there to be some engineering and industrial design flavor brought to the conversation. &#160;When making buildings, very often architects create wild building designs only to have them knocked down by serious laws, like say gravity. &#160;It is then up to the engineers to make the work a reality that obeys the laws of physics, building codes, and still hits the designer&#039;s intention. &#160;In the same way various laws and tradeoffs need to be applied when designing equipment for the data center. &#160;For example I can remember a conversation with an engineer on shrinking a system&#039;s form factor by 1U. &#160;While possible the smaller form factor blew other design criteria such as the sound output power and the targeted operating temperature. &#160;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When it comes to industrial design arguably the leader today is Apple. &#160;Their design is minimalist, by intent, and they aggressively practice the art of removing things from their systems within a design and between designs. &#160;For example on their servers there aren&#039;t any bezels at all, their LEDs that signal things like their camera in operation disappear when the cameras aren&#039;t in use, etc. &#160;So for Apple their key design criteria, I think, is best summarized by making the functional elegant and integral to the form of the design, or said another way form follows function.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There are also other complex issues that come into play, for example business intent and the message of the brand that you want convey for the long term -- like say for 100 years. &#160;Also in this era of increasing focus on sustainability having a brand that radiates persistence, arguably, may be more valuable -- this is my opinion. Another area of balance to focus on is beauty versus usability, where the sexiest design is not always the most usable. &#160;In fact as someone who is schooled in quantitative and qualitative usability testing sometimes it is an ugly design that is the most usable, which may seem counterintuitive. &#160;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So in conclusion, while I would like to see sexier things, it is necessary to strike a balance with engineering, industrial design and usability to achieve what is best for the end user.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nigel, I believe your response to Carli is spot on in that form and function are not mutually exclusive. &nbsp;However with all of the discourse associated to fancy bezels and designs I do want there to be some engineering and industrial design flavor brought to the conversation. &nbsp;When making buildings, very often architects create wild building designs only to have them knocked down by serious laws, like say gravity. &nbsp;It is then up to the engineers to make the work a reality that obeys the laws of physics, building codes, and still hits the designer&#39;s intention. &nbsp;In the same way various laws and tradeoffs need to be applied when designing equipment for the data center. &nbsp;For example I can remember a conversation with an engineer on shrinking a system&#39;s form factor by 1U. &nbsp;While possible the smaller form factor blew other design criteria such as the sound output power and the targeted operating temperature. &nbsp;</p>
<p>When it comes to industrial design arguably the leader today is Apple. &nbsp;Their design is minimalist, by intent, and they aggressively practice the art of removing things from their systems within a design and between designs. &nbsp;For example on their servers there aren&#39;t any bezels at all, their LEDs that signal things like their camera in operation disappear when the cameras aren&#39;t in use, etc. &nbsp;So for Apple their key design criteria, I think, is best summarized by making the functional elegant and integral to the form of the design, or said another way form follows function.</p>
<p>There are also other complex issues that come into play, for example business intent and the message of the brand that you want convey for the long term &#8212; like say for 100 years. &nbsp;Also in this era of increasing focus on sustainability having a brand that radiates persistence, arguably, may be more valuable &#8212; this is my opinion. Another area of balance to focus on is beauty versus usability, where the sexiest design is not always the most usable. &nbsp;In fact as someone who is schooled in quantitative and qualitative usability testing sometimes it is an ugly design that is the most usable, which may seem counterintuitive. &nbsp;</p>
<p>So in conclusion, while I would like to see sexier things, it is necessary to strike a balance with engineering, industrial design and usability to achieve what is best for the end user.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel</title>
		<link>http://blog.nigelpoulton.com/does-it-matter-if-data-center-kit-looks-sexy-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-822</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Carli&lt;br /&gt;
	&lt;br /&gt;
	Thanks for your comments.&lt;br /&gt;
	&lt;br /&gt;
	But why settle for one or the other when both (form AND function) are easily achievable!?&lt;br /&gt;
	&lt;br /&gt;
	Nigel&lt;br /&gt;
	&lt;br /&gt;
	&#160;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Carli</p>
<p>	Thanks for your comments.</p>
<p>	But why settle for one or the other when both (form AND function) are easily achievable!?</p>
<p>	Nigel</p>
<p>	&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: The Ghelfster</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Ghelfster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;While I might not be a techie (is it that obvious?), I tend to sway more towards function over form. However, if I were a techie, I would then likely be someone who does care what it looks like. An analogy, if you will: I love cars. With cars, it is not just about how it performs (even though a solid car that won&#039;t break down on me is important) but it is also how it looks. Yet when I pack my family in the car for a 10 hour trip -- performance and safety win out.&#160;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you&#039;re concerned about your data, and making sure it&#039;s highly available, secure and the system won&#039;t break down - who would you trust with your data? &#160;The system that looks good but runs terribly, has too much down time or down-right fails, or the reliable, secure and available one? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just some food for thought.&#160;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I might not be a techie (is it that obvious?), I tend to sway more towards function over form. However, if I were a techie, I would then likely be someone who does care what it looks like. An analogy, if you will: I love cars. With cars, it is not just about how it performs (even though a solid car that won&#39;t break down on me is important) but it is also how it looks. Yet when I pack my family in the car for a 10 hour trip &#8212; performance and safety win out.&nbsp;</p>
<p>If you&#39;re concerned about your data, and making sure it&#39;s highly available, secure and the system won&#39;t break down &#8211; who would you trust with your data? &nbsp;The system that looks good but runs terribly, has too much down time or down-right fails, or the reliable, secure and available one? </p>
<p>Just some food for thought.&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: V</title>
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		<dc:creator>V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree on the one hand it should look cool - it&#039;s not as if you&#039;ve paid for a ferrari and ended up with with a lada now is it ? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If it looks cool then it should also give the person who is showing it off - be that a dc manager / techie or a mkg geek (pun intended) something to help them do their job. I&#039;ve worked in the past for a vendor who&#039;s lights on the front actually sold more kit - those lights told you how the box was performing - and yeah they went red when it was .. in need of help.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It looked cool, sold more and helped when you needed confirmation - a bit of design thought and ... &lt;em&gt;spark&lt;/em&gt; could act as a visual catalyst&#160; to any well designed storage &quot;box&quot;...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(btw:&#160; &lt;strong&gt;badges&lt;/strong&gt; from those said boxes are now&#160; sought after ;) )&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree on the one hand it should look cool &#8211; it&#39;s not as if you&#39;ve paid for a ferrari and ended up with with a lada now is it ? </p>
<p>If it looks cool then it should also give the person who is showing it off &#8211; be that a dc manager / techie or a mkg geek (pun intended) something to help them do their job. I&#39;ve worked in the past for a vendor who&#39;s lights on the front actually sold more kit &#8211; those lights told you how the box was performing &#8211; and yeah they went red when it was .. in need of help.</p>
<p>It looked cool, sold more and helped when you needed confirmation &#8211; a bit of design thought and &#8230; <em>spark</em> could act as a visual catalyst&nbsp; to any well designed storage &quot;box&quot;&#8230;</p>
<p>(btw:&nbsp; <strong>badges</strong> from those said boxes are now&nbsp; sought after <img src='http://blog.nigelpoulton.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Poulton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Poulton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for chiming in.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Techmute. I appreciate that its not the most important thing about an array. My point is that its a quick and easy win.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Matthew, thanks for pointing out the link to the skins- top quality!&#160; Also thanks for pointing out that these discussions are happening elsewhere.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nigel&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for chiming in.</p>
<p>Techmute. I appreciate that its not the most important thing about an array. My point is that its a quick and easy win.</p>
<p>Matthew, thanks for pointing out the link to the skins- top quality!&nbsp; Also thanks for pointing out that these discussions are happening elsewhere.</p>
<p>Nigel</p>
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		<title>By: the storage anarchist</title>
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		<dc:creator>the storage anarchist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Point taken, TechMute.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But the two aren&#039;t necessarily mutually exclusive. We try to keep the cabinet design folks from writing software. And the marketing folks, for that matter.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The systems need a door, so its not a big expense to make it attractive. And indeed, the block gloss on the VMAX door was inspired by the polished look and feel of common handheld devices...&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point taken, TechMute.</p>
<p>But the two aren&#39;t necessarily mutually exclusive. We try to keep the cabinet design folks from writing software. And the marketing folks, for that matter.</p>
<p>The systems need a door, so its not a big expense to make it attractive. And indeed, the block gloss on the VMAX door was inspired by the polished look and feel of common handheld devices&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: techmute</title>
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		<dc:creator>techmute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Personally, we&#039;d be better off if vendors spent less time making their kits &quot;sit pretty&quot; in the computer room and more time making sure their management GUIs weren&#039;t buggy, fugly, piles of crap.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, we&#39;d be better off if vendors spent less time making their kits &quot;sit pretty&quot; in the computer room and more time making sure their management GUIs weren&#39;t buggy, fugly, piles of crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Long</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Looks are always important! Even if we don&#039;t think they should be. I think it&#039;s more of a physiological thing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I mean have you ever bought something that&#039;s ugly? I&#039;m trying to think of something, but I can&#039;t. Even if I&#039;m buying something like a pen, I&#039;ll probably look to see what colours there are or if it looks &quot;nice&quot;. Or things like loft insulation, you&#039;ll never see it, but most of the time you&#039;d opt to buy the nice bright pink roles over a dull grey role&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This could just be me - Maybe I&#039;m just shallow! :)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks are always important! Even if we don&#39;t think they should be. I think it&#39;s more of a physiological thing.</p>
<p>I mean have you ever bought something that&#39;s ugly? I&#39;m trying to think of something, but I can&#39;t. Even if I&#39;m buying something like a pen, I&#39;ll probably look to see what colours there are or if it looks &quot;nice&quot;. Or things like loft insulation, you&#39;ll never see it, but most of the time you&#39;d opt to buy the nice bright pink roles over a dull grey role</p>
<p>This could just be me &#8211; Maybe I&#39;m just shallow! <img src='http://blog.nigelpoulton.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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